Amplitude and Power
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10/15/2021 at 3:46 PM #179745
Amplitude and Power
When you have two random signals:
S1: 3 4 6 8 3 5 7 9 2 4 6 8 3 6 9
S2: 4 13 21 45 32 8 7 9 8 3 5 4 6 5 7
Standard deviation S1 = 2.3258383
Standard deviation S2 = 11.9654264
When you add S1 and S2 together you get signal S3
S1 + S2 = S3: 7 17 27 53 35 13 14 18 10 7 11 12 9 11 16
Standard deviation S3 = 12.4077549
When you add the standard deviation S1 to the standard deviation S2
2.3258383 + 11.9654264 = 14.2912647
So it turns out that the added standard deviation of S1 + S2 is uneven with the standard deviation of S3.
Why is this so?
This has to do with the physicality of signals. When you add two random signals together, the combined random signal is not an addition of the amplitudes but of the Power. In electronics, the Power = U2/ R (U is the amplitude here)
So we have to square the signals first:
S1: 9 16 36 64 9 25 49 81 4 16 36 64 9 36 81
S2: 16 169 441 2025 1024 64 49 81 64 9 25 16 36 25 49
Standard deviation S1: 26.615427
Standard deviation S2: 552,791212
S1 + S2 = S3: 25 185 477 2089 1033 89 98 162 68 25 61 80 45 61 130
Standard deviation S3 = 579.406639
Now the standard deviation of the combined signal is equal to the added standard deviation of the individual signals;
26.615427 + 552.791212 = 579.406639
The above is also the reason that when calculating the standard deviation, the deviation is squared with the average, with this you actually calculate the Power of the deviation instead of just the deviation.
10/15/2021 at 9:27 PM #17976410/16/2021 at 4:11 AM #179768I have my Radioshack SPL meter ready, set at C-weighting …
This week’s levels were quite okay (finally); Thursday it was well above 90dBSPL. The relation to last week’s gains definitely exists.
Of course it is clear that when I want a gain of 3 more, I need to invest double the money. No wait … if I want an output of 3 more, I need to double the
gainpower.10/16/2021 at 5:37 AM #17977010/16/2021 at 1:16 PM #179784Can we learn anything from the above regarding trading?
Be aware that when you use a (volatility) indicator that is only based on the amplitude (difference between open, close, high, low, etc.) such as the ATR, that these types of indicators do not fit well with the physics of how signals operate.
10/16/2021 at 5:27 PM #179788how have you come to the conclusion that all the signals provided by all these indicators is wrong?
“physics of how signal operate”?
are you saying there is a better way to generate these signals?
i would argue that a signal that is being used by many is bad… it does not matter how it is being created
10/16/2021 at 6:46 PM #17978910/16/2021 at 6:51 PM #17979010/16/2021 at 7:06 PM #179791@snucke do you understand what is happening when you calculate the standard deviation?
Do you understand why the deviation with the average is squared?
Do you understand what is happening when you add two random signals together?
Etc.
It is not about good or bad.
10/16/2021 at 7:45 PM #17979710/16/2021 at 7:55 PM #17979810/16/2021 at 7:56 PM #17979910/16/2021 at 8:18 PM #179800@snucke so it is not about the signal but the indicator.
Do you understand what happens when you add two random signals together?
The combined signal is not the addition of the amplitudes but of the power of the two random signals.
The standard deviation deals with this “behavior” by squaring the deviation with the average, the ATR doesn’t.
10/16/2021 at 8:20 PM #17980110/16/2021 at 8:27 PM #179802 -
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