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  • 10/05/2024 at 6:34 AM #238502
    CFD AutoTrading

    Sorry! There was an error in the NEPTUNE NAS results (join our Discord channel for details). The month actually closed with low profits instead of being flat, see the new image.

    11/04/2024 at 11:29 AM #239929
    CFD AutoTrading

    Updating now with October 2024 results:

    This has been the worst month of the year, with the most significant impact stemming from the underperformance of SETH CRUDE (which was halted a few days ago) and NASDAQ. The remaining markets ended flat or slightly positive.

    Interestingly, the 4 systems in our MASTERS PACK were the only ones that closed in positive territory, achieving a combined profit of +1652€ this month

    If we had halted SETH CRUDE earlier (which has been heavily impacted in recent months by news and geopolitical influences) or avoided the market opening gap on a winning VENUS NIKKEI position, we would be reporting another positive month (the sixth one). However, that was not the case, and such scenarios are an inherent part of trading.

    That said, we are satisfied, as these impacts were specific rather than indicative of overall poor performance, especially in this October marked by lateral and “choppy” behaviour, which poses a challenge for algorithmic trading.

    Ultimately, focusing on short periods or individual positions prevents us from seeing the bigger picture. So far, we have accumulated +8,200€ this year using the official systems and sizing, and we are now heading into the best seasonal period of the year—November and December—by far.

     

    PS: The September results had another error on NEPTUNE DJI system, finally the month closed with +862€. We had a problem with my own instances in real, from where the results are extracted. More details in our Discord: https://bit.ly/cfdautodiscord

    12/04/2024 at 5:02 AM #241062
    CFD AutoTrading

    November closed with a loss of 675€, marking the second consecutive month in negative. It’s worth noting that October was initially reported as the worst month of 2024, but due to an error in the report, the actual losses were lower than originally stated.

     

    Including the correct results of October and November, we are currently 2.300€ below peaks. However, the year-to-date profit exceeds 7.800€, achieved with only 11 to 14 systems active.

     

    Focusing on November, the month saw mixed results across markets, with no significant gains or losses except for PLUG NIKKEI, which underperformed. Despite this, it remains the second most profitable system over the past 12 months, with over 3.000€ in total profit. Another example is the four systems in the NASDAQ PACK: after a setback of 1.345€ in October and November, they still hold a strong 12-month profit of 9.200€.

     

    The variability experienced in October and November highlights the inherent fluctuations of trading. Nevertheless, there is positive momentum: as of early December, profits have already reached approximately 1.200€ within two trading days. This progress offsets November’s losses, partially compensates for October, and sets a promising tone for the month ahead.

    01/04/2025 at 6:37 PM #242158
    CFD AutoTrading

    This December delivered an outstanding performance, closing the year with the best monthly result of 2024—slightly surpassing March—and achieving a new all-time high (ATH) for our CFDAutoTrading standard systems portfolio. The month generated an impressive 3.505€ in gross profit, with the NASDAQ and NIKKEI systems standing out as top-performing markets.

    We are particularly pleased with these results, not only because with that profit, the overall results overcame the moderate October and November drawdown, but also because our systems exceeded expectations in December that initially anticipated a Christmas rally but was ultimately marked by volatility, highs, and lows.

    https://market.prorealcode.com/store/cfd-autotrading/

    02/09/2025 at 8:29 PM #243649
    CFD AutoTrading

    Average loss closing January 2025, struggling with the Trump effect

    January was a highly volatile month, with market gaps and unpredictable movements significantly impacting performance. NASDAQ systems were hit the hardest, as sudden price swings and geopolitical factors, particularly U.S. tariff news and political uncertainty, drove instability. Some systems, like TALOS NAS, NEPTUNE NAS, and ARES SP500, struggled with these conditions, especially when holding positions over the weekend.

    But in the other hand, two systems delivered outstanding results. ARES DAX and BAGDAD CAC both achieved great profits (with an awesome nearly 1.500€ profit for BAGDAD CAC, emerging as our most profitable system in the last 12 months. These results highlight the benefits of diversification with good and different strategies.

    Closing the month with -1.180€, we actually had the average results of our losing months. That represents only around 8% of the reference capital for the TOTAL PACK

     

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    Join our Discord to get full information and learn about our strategic risk adjustments and ongoing evaluations:  https://bit.ly/cfdatdiscord

    02/10/2025 at 1:16 AM #243657
    phoentzs

    But NASDAQ gained over 2% in January… shouldn’t that be noticeable? 😉

    02/10/2025 at 6:22 AM #243660
    CFD AutoTrading

    Given your experience, I totally get the irony here! 😄 Trading / autotrading are a different game, and anyone expecting similar results as buy & hold probably doesn’t fully understand how it works. Some market conditions and trends are easier than others, and this month in particular, we got hit by more than one opening gap (exceeding SL).

    Different strategies and trading styles work differently in each scenario. There are so many factors! And sometimes, luck plays a bigger role in the short term than we’d like.

    By the way, regarding gaps and overnight costs, I’ve been considering different options. From time ago, I haven’t been convinced by forcing daily or weekend position closures—everything I’ve tried, tested or seen in that area feels overfit to me.

    Speaking of which, another thing I often notice is that just because you can go short doesn’t mean shorting follows the same rules as going long in reverse. Shorting is always more difficult. Then you see great short entries on social networks, etc., but in reality, they are just one-off positions. Finding or preparing solid short strategies that hold up for 18+ months in live trading is being extremely rare for me.

    Perhaps I could open a separate thread to hear what you all think about overnight costs and daily/weekend closures (I don’t want to do it until I first look for what already exists). Also, we have been working on another subject we’re discussing in our Discord, which seems to be a valid alternative.

    02/10/2025 at 4:40 PM #243699
    ProfitAlgos

    Hi CFD Autotrading,

     

    I’ve been following your work and appreciate the strong results you’ve achieved. I wanted to ask if you have any algorithms that close all positions before the market closes to avoid overnight fees. Have you considered the impact of these fees on performance? If you do have such strategies, could you share some details and their results?

     

    Looking forward to your thoughts.

     

     

    https://www.prorealcode.com/topic/algos-no-nightfees-all-vendors/

    Best regards,

    ProfitAlgos

     

     

    03/12/2025 at 6:27 AM #244845
    CFD AutoTrading

    February continued in a similar way. This time, the losses were spread across all markets, with the exceptions of CRUDE, CAC40, and GOLD (the latter without any operations).

    At the start of the month, we set 0.5 contracts as the default size for the NASDAQ systems in our proposed portfolio, until further notice. We also halted VENUS NIKKEI. More importantly, we’d like to highlight another key topic: the use of IG FUTURES. These instruments do not incur overnight costs and can be traded with the same margin requirements as CFDs. Essentially, IG FUTURES offer higher spreads but no overnight fees, making them an excellent option for swing trading with algorithms. For this reason, we are now including IG FUTURES results alongside our usual reporting.

    Please note the key difference:

    • For CFDs, we show Gross Profit.
    • For IG FUTURES, we show Net Profit.

     

    In fact, we have conducted a study to determine which of our systems is better suited for CFDs or FUTURES (using the same IG account). This is a complex topic that has been actively discussed in our Discord. We will continue to provide updates using IG CFD and IG FUTURES, as well as results from combinations of CFD + FUTURES strategies.

    More information soon.

    03/12/2025 at 11:51 AM #244868
    JS

    I see that the Venus Nikkei is being removed (out) from the selection due to its poor performance over the past two years.

    Why is this algo still being offered in the Marketplace?

    03/12/2025 at 12:11 PM #244870
    CFD AutoTrading

    By mistake, sir. I just took it offline and updated the product bundles that previously included it.

    03/12/2025 at 12:38 PM #244871
    Bobb

    I have a question to ask, unfortunately it is not possible to understand which one you are using in Live.
    CFD or FUTURES, or maybe both.

    03/12/2025 at 7:58 PM #244887
    CFD AutoTrading

    Since the beginning, we have always launched our systems in live trading using CFDs (as I believe is the case for most IG users here). We also used futures with Interactive Brokers since the AutoTrading integration, but that’s not the topic now. Returning to IG, since November, we have been testing IG FUTURES with different setups.

    If you’re asking what we have been using lately, until February end, both of them; but without a strict selection process. Essentially, we were running all our existing CFD systems and adding some FUTURES positions as extra and to understand and validate how it works. That said, we recently moved to a near-total risk-off mode in our personal live accounts, also reallocating capital to other investments. My focus now is on preparing a new wave of updates and new trading systems, as I anticipate the next 2–3 years may bring plain or minimal growth (maybe slow but continued downtrend). This doesn’t mean we are abandoning or losing confidence in our current portfolio, but as vendors, we always need to stay one step ahead—and I’ll need available funds to test in live future strategies.

    Returning to the specific CFD vs. FUTURES topic, we have conducted an in-depth analysis of our systems and are preparing an article on this, as mentioned earlier. If anyone wants access to the full (though less structured) details, we have them available on our Discord. For now, I can say that we are not recommending a full migration to FUTURES; the point is to understand and test when it could be better, depending on the strategy.

    Just give me a few more days, please —I have a lot on my plate, both personally and professionally.

    03/13/2025 at 8:19 AM #244894
    Bobb

    Thanks, it was just to understand how much the loss was in the month of February, about €3,000 which considering that since mid-February it has been difficult except for the Dax is understandable.

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