Discussion re Pure Renko strategy
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04/25/2020 at 11:10 PM #128104
boxsize would have changed from the startingvalue 27 after 8 trades
possibly true, i’d have to graph it. But assuming it did change, it changed for the worse, as I take a loss on the 24th where you get a gain. Lengthy forward testing is the only way with such short TFs. Even with 200k, the back test only says whether or not it worked last week … not much to go on.
04/25/2020 at 11:21 PM #128106Yes I agree, this is a massive disadvantage on this timeframe. I wonder why the ML changes for the worse though, what can be changed for it to make a better decision? I was hoping fixed all and pt would help but that might not be the case.
04/25/2020 at 11:22 PM #12810704/26/2020 at 7:20 AM #128125I wonder why the ML changes for the worse though
Different price conditions on 23/4.
If from one day to the next price changes from big swings / trends up to little swings / trends up (and opposite for shorts) then the box size which was valid on 23/4 (for big swings) will not be valid on 24/4 (for little swings) … so the ML would need a lot of trades on 24/4 to adjust the value back to a good / winning value.
I was manual trading on 5 sec TF on 24/4 and it was a waste of my time because price was up a few points down a few points, up a few points, down a few points .. all day long it seemed?
Just a few thoughts anyway … I still think daily optimisation is the way to go on sub 1 min TF’s … even with the ML also doing additional optimisation on the fly within the strategy.
04/26/2020 at 10:37 AM #128167wonder why the ML changes for the worse though
What GraHal said and the way the code was setup, means there are a lot of signals which are ignored when in a position. The backtest results are basically luck. Maybe ML has more chance, when it realise a position is opened and going in the opposite direction and a new signal appears in the same directions, the previous one is closed an a new one is opened with new parameters.
So i.e. a long position in loss is closed and taken in consideration with ML because the long signal appears in the same direction. It gives meaning to a bad signal, which can maybe influence the next one for the better. When a trade long is positive and another long signal appears then there’s no action. Only in loss. Or you could do the opposite 🙂
I believe and very well could be wrong here, but if the backtest results don’t change too much with more trades, the strategy is more robust. However still it’s no guarantee. I don’t think ML is the holy grail in this btw.
04/30/2020 at 3:14 PM #12905605/06/2020 at 10:13 AM #13019105/06/2020 at 1:17 PM #130228Anyone still running 10s/1s?
Can anyone explain how you can make a profit on such a small TF when the spread is taken into account and how long are the trades held onto? I know when I was live scalping Forex that I couldn’t make money on anything under a 3 minute chart.
05/06/2020 at 3:03 PM #130251How about coding for conditions as attached … happened at 13:17 today and was all over 2 minutes later!
Generally happens several times per day … Open – Close > x and exit at first pull back > Y etc?
I’ve made £95 today on 6 trades like attached and lots of little ones.
I was mad again as yesterday 3 x Algos on 5 Min TF lost me £80 so I made it back up on manual trades! Maybe I should get mad more often!? 🙂
I think we need to look at a scenarios as attached and code for it … then backtest to see if it works / optimise ??
Maybe it won’t work and only the human eye / brain can take it all in!? 🙂
PS
Dam … just missed another while typing this! See Renko 2 attached!
05/06/2020 at 3:08 PM #13025505/06/2020 at 3:16 PM #13025605/06/2020 at 3:30 PM #130260So you mean doing something like that? Long when body and the low of the last candle is greater then previous 2 candle and viceversa
In certain hour times also? Maybe adding a bearish/bullish detection?
1234567891011121314151617body= abs(close - open)short= open>closelong= close>openif close>close[1] thenif body>body[1] and body>body[2] thenif short[1] thensellshort 1 contract at marketendifendifelsif close<close[1] thenif body>body[1] and body>body[2] thenif long[1] thenbuy 1 contract at marketendifendifendifNot Tested
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05/06/2020 at 3:45 PM #130265Yeah might work, but also maybe needs a size of body in the code as these ‘explosions’ happen with bigger candles than most candles … I guess it’s caused by an institution selling / buying a lot of stock?
Also as soon as there is a pullback > y points then exit?
All needs to be optimised and backtested etc, but I was just trying to show by my results today that it can work.
I use the 5 sec TF because – if short – then it’s easy to see green candles forming and their size re a pullback etc.
I didn’t know you were that quick at coding … I’ll go check out your latest Scalpmaster! 🙂
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