Forex – just how risky is it anyhow?
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06/06/2017 at 8:41 PM #37661
Hi All,
I am new to Forex, so trying to get a handle on how risky it is because of the leverage involved. When I start trading I want to risk only a set amount.
For example if I set my stop so that for any one trade I risk no more than 100 EUR, then if the market plummets/rises past my stop, what are the chances my stop is not honoured at the value I set, and therefore I would owe a lot of money. Do all brokers honour stops? For that matter do the two brokers that ProRealTime use honour stops ..
I guess what I am asking is, what are the REAL risks .. (and yes, I have read the disclaimer about the possibility of loosing more than what is in your account)
Appreciate the feedback ..
B.
06/06/2017 at 9:39 PM #37663Only way you can be sure is to use the ‘guaranteed stops’ (maybe not even then?) that the likes of IG provide.
I (try!)) to keep overall risk (of all trades on all Bots & Manual) to less than 5% of equity (losing 100% of equity must not change our way of life! :)). Then ‘if it all goes wrong’ (and maybe risk goes to 10 or 15% of equity) I am not too worried and I can sit back (have a break from trading!) for a few days and wait until the trades come back in my favour.
You still need a plan with above strategy, for example, Index / Indices tend too rise over time so it would be scary watching your losses increase while the Index gets further and further away from your (Sell) entry point!
I smiled when I read below earlier tonight (Nicolas ref’d it on another post), it’s true! There are other useful, easily read and remembered nuggets on the site below!
https://www.andlil.com/en/trading-rule-number-1-lose-money/
I live in a state of perpetual doubt, I am no longer certain about the market’s direction (the market has put me in my place often enough to teach me that certainty on financial markets is a sure path to setbacks). Therefore, I calculate any possible loss first, I always take the most pessimistic position possible, I consider loss as a fact and profit as a possibility.
GraHal
06/06/2017 at 10:24 PM #37668Thanks for the reply.
So I notice that IG’s “Guaranteed Stops” are a purchased option “you pay, as you use them”, so that begs the question, does PRT support adding these stops in addition to regular stops? (My thinking is to use one of these stops a bit below/above a regular stop)
Cheers,
B.
06/06/2017 at 10:38 PM #37669I can’t advise, sorry as I’ve never used Guaranteed Stops.
Have you spent 100’s of hours (over 12 months +) trying everything out on Demo (free with virtual money)? Try out the Guaranteed stops on Demo then you will know?
It’s worth noting that even if you can make money on Demo you may not do the same in Live?
06/06/2017 at 10:42 PM #3767106/06/2017 at 11:01 PM #3767606/06/2017 at 11:32 PM #37678..and your concern is appreciated. I an trying hard not lo loose money also, that is why the questions on risk. I have been trading shares for many years successfully, it is Forex I know little about.
It seems the Guaranteed Stops are an option on opening an IG account and the cost is 0.3% .. 1% on the notable position! if the stop is hit.
I am not sure what “notable position” is if anyone can give an example, that would be appreciated ..
Cheers
06/06/2017 at 11:55 PM #37679Is Notable Position just a huffy way of saying the respective position .. i.e. the position on which the guaranteed stop applies?
Why not trade Indexes or even Commodities (the lower spread ones) … at least there is something of substance as a basis for price / value (basket of shares, copper etc)?
The violent flash moves on Forex (price gradually moving up for an hour or so, then a massive flash down of 60 points in a minute) must be manipulation by the big boys? Hard to make money under such conditions. Also flash widening (in milli-seconds) of the Spread which takes out stops and then price recovers in your direction but you’ve been taken out with a big loss!?
I’m glad you’ve been trading shares successfully, make sure you don’t lose those hard earned $$$$!
As you can see I’m gong through a cynical … is it all worth it period!!! 🙂
Goodnight! Good Luck! 🙂
GraHal06/07/2017 at 9:01 AM #37709As far as I’m aware you can only use guaranteed stops through the IG platform and not on PRT.
@bmentink – if you are new to this start with markets that gives you low spread as GraHal said, and start with higher timeframes 1h – daily!06/07/2017 at 9:08 AM #37712Hi,
Correct, IG do have Guaranteed stops and you can use them with PRT if you indicate that you want to use them in place of the normal stops, when opening the account. …at least, that is what IG said when I had a chat with them.
IG advertise spreads from 0.6 to 1.5 on Forex, is this not correct? Can they go higher? …
I was going to start with 4h/Daily timeframes anyway …
Exactly which markets have tighter spreads anyway … I presume you are talking about trading CFD’s
Cheers
06/07/2017 at 12:20 PM #37742You find an overview of all spreads on the IG website. Some of the low spread markets which I prefer is BUND, EURUSD, USDJPY, GBPUSD, GOLD and DAX.
With regards to the guaranteed stop, I meant not workable on the trading systems you build with PRT.
06/07/2017 at 7:38 PM #37781Thanks for the heads up on those low spread instruments.
With the stops, because IG replace the normal ones with the guaranteed ones, I don’t see why it should not work in trading systems. Someone with more data should confirm this though.
Anyway, I am only doing manual trades …
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