How To Keep Current Window Open On The Same Monitor

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  • 03/17/2024 at 11:10 PM #229930
    Andre36

    Hi guys! I’m wondering if anyone has ran into this issue also. I’m currently using two monitors to view PRT. The issue I’m having is whenever there is a different window open on my main monitor and I click on a PRT chart on the second monitor, the window on my main monitor changes to a PRT chart. Bringing the window back on my main monitor is fine until I perform an action on the second monitor and the window changes back to a PRT chart on my main monitor. Is there a way to operate windows individually on separate monitors? Thanks!

    03/18/2024 at 12:06 AM #229931
    inverse

    I think I know where you’re coming from, I only see this occur when ‘I click on the Title Bar of a chart” ….

    I can hit any other part of the chart (do anything with it I need to do) and the ‘other non-prt windows remain open, mail, xls etc’ and are unaffected but as soon as I ‘click on the title bar’ I’m done for prt-everywhere haha but this rarely happens enough to be a problem for me, could be I’m missing something though.

    Are you saying you can ‘click on the body of the chart (not the title bar)’ and it ‘brings the PRT windows to front’ and your non-prt window to the back (hidden from view), directly beneath the PRT windows?

     

    edit: qhd x 2 here atmo.

    03/18/2024 at 1:06 AM #229934
    Andre36
    inverse wrote:

    I think I know where you’re coming from, I only see this occur when ‘I click on the Title Bar of a chart” ….

    I can hit any other part of the chart (do anything with it I need to do) and the ‘other non-prt windows remain open, mail, xls etc’ and are unaffected but as soon as I ‘click on the title bar’ I’m done for prt-everywhere haha but this rarely happens enough to be a problem for me, could be I’m missing something though.

    Are you saying you can ‘click on the body of the chart (not the title bar)’ and it ‘brings the PRT windows to front’ and your non-prt window to the back (hidden from view), directly beneath the PRT windows?

    edit: qhd x 2 here atmo.

    Yep. For me it doesn’t matter what part lol. I can click on the menus, the chart, the side…it will change my main monitor to the last open chart If I have my main monitor on another window like emails etc etc. I’ve tried googling it and I’ve seen some similar posts. The only fix I’ve seen is to have separate ports plugged in or something like that or to install a program to operate windows separately. Surely this is not an uncommon problem that hasn’t been addressed for all the other instances it’s occurred. I know it’s not specifically a PRT issue but if you’re saying you don’t really have this issue apart from clicking on your titles then maybe it’s something on my side. I’ll have to see what else I find or wait for any other input or last resort have a look at the multiple monitor program.

    03/18/2024 at 1:32 AM #229935
    inverse

    Yes, I only ever see the problem when clicking ‘title bar’.

    I’m still on Windows 10 here, 1650super Nvidia, all display port driven, there’s also a 1080p in portrait, so 3 in total. It’s a quiet PC build.

    This is with IG supplied PRT, so PRT Complete.

    I’ll be honest with you, I’ve seen many screen related problems over the years and it’s mainly driver related in the later part of my PC usage, been a PC user since 1986.

    Do you see this problem when in 1 x screen mode or only when in dual monitor mode, if so it could be build-cfg-driver related?

    There’s DDU (diplay driver uninstaller) which can be of use when removing ‘remnants’ of old gfx installs etc. But before going to that ‘well’ I’d see how it rolls in 1 x screen (monitor) mode. If it starts behaving as expected it could be specific to your build and / or drivers.

    For one of the strangest reasons ‘multi-monitor’ mode can cause problems even in a office, I guess it’s all about the interop of standards and mixing of 1 monitor on DVI-HDMI and another on VGA or DP with both HDMI and DP having many versions out and about now, then you have resolutions and cable specs – it’s a dogs breakfast sometimes!

    Also have a think about how ‘clean your OS build is’ but if you can do 1 x screen, 2 should be doable if the GFX card is all good to go.

     

     

    03/18/2024 at 2:00 AM #229936
    inverse

     

    Do all non-PRT operations work as expected, no odd goings on? It’s only with PRT?

    It almost sounds like PC cfg, when the additional screen was added, windows or OS of choice lost it’s ‘default’ screen when you extended the desktop to use the additional space.

    I had some? issues when I went 4 x qhd initially (now of x2) on the 1650super and I needed to rearrange port-cabling to have the correct layout and that’s as close as I can get to having had problems.

    Andre36 wrote:

    it will change my main monitor to the last open chart If I have my main monitor on another window like emails etc etc.

    So are you saying:

    On your main monitor, where you have nothing but mail (for example), no underlying prt charts(?)

    When clicking on the secondary monitor (with PRT charts),

    Any selected chart will now appear on the ‘primary’ main monitor, automagically? if so, that’s damned sexy!

    It could be how multimonitor is setup w/in windows, or even worst case your psu-gfx can’t drive the setup, due to power requirements-interop but those should be present in general operation too (unless PRT exposes-triggers it).

    03/18/2024 at 5:25 AM #229937
    PeterSt

    This is how PRT has been designed :

    All below is not monitor related. But see below my little list.
    The setting that all goes to the Taskbar when minimising the Main Menu, is assumed (or else all below is moot). Thus, your PRT session is all contained in one Taskbar Icon.
    A gazillion charts and lists and other forms is assumed. Thus not only two (one on each monitor). This emphasizes the behaviour and possibilities.

    1. Click on any part of a chart, let’s call that the side for further discussion, other than somewhere on the Title Bar, and only that particular chart comes up front. Avoid ever clicking the Title Bar throughout, if you want this behaviour.
    2. Click on the Title Bar and the whole of the PRT platform may become on top. This now depends on the kind of form you click. E.g. click a normal chart will bring all forward, but click the ProOrder form will bring only that forward (many more examples exist).
    3. Click on the PRT icon in the Title Bar of any form of PRT and the whole of PRT comes on top. It is crucial to be aware of this.
    4. Never minimise any of the forms of PRT because you may not be able to find them back when many forms are open (it is possible, but it will be a hassle). It is just not made for that when in this mode of all being under one Taskbar Icon (see prerequisite above).

    On a side note, this is how we can deal with e.g. 5 accounts, each account showing a few dozen forms (like I have those); when organised smartly, there is no issue whatsoever anywhere. Notice that I use this PC for normal operation just the same (like typing this post). There is no hindering of anything, or it must be during the startup of PRT (then too much is persistently on top and normal operation must be suspended during that time).
    I only show the Taskbar on my main screen (this may do some things).

    And now the catch :

    Although I don’t see you really writing about that, Andre, the normal PC (Windows ?) environment has not been designed to have monitors not powered; this is a Displayport thing. Thus, when a Displayport connected monitor is not powered, it won’t be part of the monitor-set as a whole, and you can’t persist any window on it – also not PRT windows/forms. This means that all your windows from such a monitor will move to any of your other monitors (could be the one you designated as your main monitor, could be your monitor #1 which is not the same as your main monitor), and all will be a mess (never save in such a situation or else the mess will be persistent).
    Of course you will believe me that what you see below (hopefully unreadable 😉 ) is just 100% workable. You see the ProrealCode browser instance in the middle, Bloomberg in the left carefully overlaid for those parts that don’t show anything of my interest anyway, each account in its own colour. Would I want to see all from one account, I click one of its charts at the PRT icon and the whole account is upfront. Do I want to keep in touch with one of the charts of anything, then I click it in the (right hand) side.

    And then what you see below is 3 monitors out of the 7 I use. Of course there is quite some organisation in this all, but this is all very satisfactory.

    Andre, supposed you can’t mimic such a situation, complying to all I described, then something is “amiss” hence ready for improvement. Try to avoid the Displayport connection (use HDMI) and from there use Displayport again but now with the knowledge how all can be arranged for. I use Displayport too, but “with prescription” (like what sequence to apply after a reboot of my PC).

    Have fun,
    Peter

     

    03/18/2024 at 6:20 AM #229939
    inverse

    Can’t argue with any of that Peter.

    Yes, from memory I was on HDMI and DP and you can get yourself into ‘window-screen-location’ problems, as in preferences and window layouts.

    So yes, HDMI Primary, DP secondary and so on. Even DVI-DL as a primary or VGA from memory. It could be fair to say MS likes-liked legacy ports ahead of the most recent (or can do/did for me), similar to how protocol bindings were prioritised.

    A full blown DP setup ver. 1.2 onwards should be okay though (what I do).

    The issue of Windows updates vs GFX driver of choice is another to consider, once settled, if a business class machine, turn off Windows driver updates. The key then is to document it all and ensure if and when it goes cra cra, you can check whether MS hasn’t had it’s fingers in your CFG.

    I have an annoying screen flash with prt-windows being redrawn, that only occurs when xls is in full screen mode, at it’s worst I can resize xls to under 2560-1440p and there’s never any issue – gone completely. Monthly cold starts, with power removed for ~15mins can help eliminate the problem for months on end but if PC is left on the problems can begin to manifest.

    Intel, AMD, Nvidia they all have there problems (and workarounds), the industry proper has us all as beta testers, BTC took that to the next level when ‘Satoshi’ did there thing. The jump to an alternate ledger, w/distributed potential, could never have happened unless those ‘free’ 21mil BTC existed.

    We expect quite a bit out of PCs circa 2024 and it’s here the ‘features’ are sometimes unwelcome …. 🙂

     


    @PeterSt    , have seen Indicator calculation gremlins post 8MAR, some of your earlier fix requests may have unwound!

     

    03/18/2024 at 10:46 AM #229943
    druby

    hi…all

    Been bugged by this for a while but never wen’t beyond accepting this was how it was.

    So after seeing your posts, wen’t on a desktop click fest to see what’s what.

    I’m on Win10, try this process:

    • click on prt, so to bring on top
    • right click on any chart and bring up any list box menu [chart, object, etc]
    •      while thats open and displays
    • move and click on chosen non prt window [browser, notepad,etc]
    •      if its not partly visible to click on, choose from windows menu bar
    • then click back on to a prt window

    On mine, it appears to keep the non prt window on top, and still be able to interacte with PRT windows.

    unless a prt chart or menu box over laps, other stay on top .

    prt Title bar click reverts back  to prt on top.

    Seems to work on a single or multiple monitors and with mutiple non prt windows.

    However, most interaction in a non prt window voids the process.

    Not perfect but repeatable, useful is certain situations!

    Often I may want to watch a video, or take notes in notepad and have to clear an area to avoid being covered by prt.

    For me,  in my book its a move in the right direction , an option!.

    druby

    03/19/2024 at 4:20 AM #229985
    Andre36
    inverse wrote:

    Yes, I only ever see the problem when clicking ‘title bar’.

    I’m still on Windows 10 here, 1650super Nvidia, all display port driven, there’s also a 1080p in portrait, so 3 in total. It’s a quiet PC build.

    This is with IG supplied PRT, so PRT Complete.

    I’ll be honest with you, I’ve seen many screen related problems over the years and it’s mainly driver related in the later part of my PC usage, been a PC user since 1986.

    Do you see this problem when in 1 x screen mode or only when in dual monitor mode, if so it could be build-cfg-driver related?

    There’s DDU (diplay driver uninstaller) which can be of use when removing ‘remnants’ of old gfx installs etc. But before going to that ‘well’ I’d see how it rolls in 1 x screen (monitor) mode. If it starts behaving as expected it could be specific to your build and / or drivers.

    For one of the strangest reasons ‘multi-monitor’ mode can cause problems even in a office, I guess it’s all about the interop of standards and mixing of 1 monitor on DVI-HDMI and another on VGA or DP with both HDMI and DP having many versions out and about now, then you have resolutions and cable specs – it’s a dogs breakfast sometimes!

    Also have a think about how ‘clean your OS build is’ but if you can do 1 x screen, 2 should be doable if the GFX card is all good to go.

    Well taking all this into consideration, it could be a mixture of things that my current setup is the culprit of. I’m running on a Intel i7 nearly 3ghz processor laptop , I can’t remember the rest of the specs but it’s not slow for what I’m using it for and it’s windows 10 Pro. The monitor and my laptop are both Dell and I’m using a HDMI to sync the screens but I’m not sure what version and the monitor is much older with less resolution, things for me my naked eye don’t really care for but utilisation and compatibility does, it looks like. To be honest I can’t be asked to go through all the possible diagnosis. Just thought they’d be a straight forward fix but no biscuit.

    03/19/2024 at 4:37 AM #229986
    Andre36
    inverse wrote:

    Do all non-PRT operations work as expected, no odd goings on? It’s only with PRT?

    It almost sounds like PC cfg, when the additional screen was added, windows or OS of choice lost it’s ‘default’ screen when you extended the desktop to use the additional space.

    I had some? issues when I went 4 x qhd initially (now of x2) on the 1650super and I needed to rearrange port-cabling to have the correct layout and that’s as close as I can get to having had problems.

    Andre36 wrote:

    it will change my main monitor to the last open chart If I have my main monitor on another window like emails etc etc.

    So are you saying:

    On your main monitor, where you have nothing but mail (for example), no underlying prt charts(?)

    When clicking on the secondary monitor (with PRT charts),

    Any selected chart will now appear on the ‘primary’ main monitor, automagically? if so, that’s damned sexy!

    It could be how multimonitor is setup w/in windows, or even worst case your psu-gfx can’t drive the setup, due to power requirements-interop but those should be present in general operation too (unless PRT exposes-triggers it).

    That’s exactly what I’m saying 🙂 LOL. The things is, I’ve just recently tested it with other trading programs (Tradingview, Ctrader) and this phenomena doesn’t happen. Multi charts on Ctrader doesn’t affect the chart on the primary monitor and it’s the same with Tradingview. Only PRT.

    03/19/2024 at 4:44 AM #229987
    Andre36
    druby wrote:

    hi…all

    Been bugged by this for a while but never wen’t beyond accepting this was how it was.

    So after seeing your posts, wen’t on a desktop click fest to see what’s what.

    I’m on Win10, try this process:

    • click on prt, so to bring on top
    • right click on any chart and bring up any list box menu [chart, object, etc]
    • while thats open and displays
    • move and click on chosen non prt window [browser, notepad,etc]
    • if its not partly visible to click on, choose from windows menu bar
    • then click back on to a prt window

    On mine, it appears to keep the non prt window on top, and still be able to interacte with PRT windows.

    unless a prt chart or menu box over laps, other stay on top .

    prt Title bar click reverts back to prt on top.

    Seems to work on a single or multiple monitors and with mutiple non prt windows.

    However, most interaction in a non prt window voids the process.

    Not perfect but repeatable, useful is certain situations!

    Often I may want to watch a video, or take notes in notepad and have to clear an area to avoid being covered by prt.

    For me, in my book its a move in the right direction , an option!.

    druby

    I’ve just discovered it only happens with PRT.  I can utilise the charts on the secondary monitor with other trading programs like Ctrader and Tradingview without it affecting my main screen.

    04/01/2024 at 7:06 PM #230856
    Andre36

    This worked for me. Now I can click on any PRT chart on my secondary monitor and any window of choice will remain open on my primary monitor. I use windows.

    Click, Control Panel – Ease Of Access – Scroll to “Make Mouse Easier To Use” – Scroll to “Activate A Window By Hovering Over It”. Click Apply and Ok.

    Done. Hope it works for you.

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