Manual Drawn Lines are Not Accurate on Lower Timeframes

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  • #21710

    I sent below to IG today … anybody any comment?

     

    I drew a trend line on the DAX 1 hour chart (price 11591.7) , and price is below the trend line.
    when I go to the 15 min chart price (11591.5) is below my manual drawn trend line
    but when I go to the 5 min chart price (11591.2) is above my manual drawn trend line??
    This can’t be right surely or am I missing something here??
    3 screen shots attached. IG have forwarded my email onto PRT.
    GraHal
    #21718

    Unlike classic mathematical 2d graphs with homogeneous time on horizontal axis, here you have time compacted in one point for a given candle, and then a jump along the horizontal line to another candle, during which time is again compacted in one point, etc…

    As a consequence, when looking in a lower timeframe at a line coming from a higher timeframe, your lower timeframe line would have a similar slope only if your two points from which it was built are exactly at the same amount of time after the start of their respective candlestick. If not, the slope will be different, resulting in price and line relative positions being different from higher to lower timeframe.

    For example, imagine a line in 1h timeframe you draw from 2 points in 2 neighbouring candles (just 1h apart) with 10 points vertical difference, when you go down to 15 minutes timeframe, you expand each 1h candle into 4 x15minutes candles, now consider those 2 cases:

    1 – your 1st point is in 1st 15min candle of first hour and 2nd point in last 15min candle of second hour,

    2 – your 1st point is in last 15min candle of first hour and 2nd point in first 15min candle of second hour,

    you can easily imagine that with these two sets of horizontal coordinates, at equal vertical coordinates 10 points apart vertically for both cases, the slope of the line won’t be the same in these two 15min timeframe cases, yet both cases match a same 1h higher timeframe line…

    #21738

    Thank you Noobs for your informative and comprehensive reply … I think I get it, but I’ll let my brain  work on it overnight! 🙂

    Taking your points, I guess I’d expect the charting software to give a line of ‘best-fit compromise’ when looking at / using a lower timeframe.  Odd thing is the line looks about right on the 15m TF but then goes way out on the 5M TF.

    Thanks & Regards
    GraHal

     

    #21739

    Line looks about right from 1H to 15M I mean and then goes way out from 15M to 5M.

    #21905

    I just did a Daily Trend Line (DAX broke upward trend) and because I put this Thread up I thought I’d follow it through to the 5M TF … guess what, all looks about right … Trend line goes through index value (11630) on 9 Jan on the Daily and on 9 Jan on the 5M (see attached).

    So maybe I had a weird glitch yesterday on my Platform that made the Trend line yesterday  (see OP) do something odd on the 5M TF.

    Anyway when PRT reply, I’ll add it on here.

    GraHal

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