New margin requirements :-O
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03/29/2018 at 5:59 PM #66720
About an hour ago I received the new margin requirements from IG in reaction to this new ESMA rules. This is crazy. For many assets they raise the margin by 1000% for some even more! I haven’t checked it but after this raise I think there is no advantage anymore (margin wise) to trade CFD at all and one can switch directly to futures.
One thing I’m wondering. Does anybody know how Brexit will impact this change? If the UK leaves the EU, will IG still be obligated to follow ESMA rules?
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03/29/2018 at 7:57 PM #6672403/29/2018 at 8:05 PM #66725Ask Google. I know nothing about spread betting since it is a UK only thing.
The new rules shall be active 1st july. Binary options are banned completely and leverage extremely reduced (through the higher margins). FTSE for example goes from 0,5% to 5% margin.
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03/29/2018 at 8:40 PM #66726Any mention of changes re Spreadbetting??
As far as I have read spread betting has the same margin increases as CFD’s.
Basically what they have done is left the level of risk the same for the big players who can class themselves as professional – so once again if you have a lot of money it is easier to make a lot of money and it has increased the chance of minor players blowing up their account with a margin call. It won’t stop people wanting to try out spread betting or CFD’s it will just ensure that they have a better chance of losing all their money. What a fantastic policy.
I wonder if with all their recent promotion of classifying yourself as professional whether IG are just hoping people will lie when asked the basic questions about trading history – and then it is our fault not theirs if it all goes tits up. They asked – we lied – not their fault.
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03/29/2018 at 8:58 PM #6672703/29/2018 at 9:06 PM #66728To be classed professional you need a min 500 000 euro account and have worked in the field so you have experience with the instruments. Not that easy to match for me.
You need to have 500,000 Euro portfolio – not account. I doubt very much that any broker asks for evidence of your other accounts to prove this one.
You need one year working in finance with experience of what you are trading – I doubt they will ask for references.
Whether someone could expand the truth a little and declare themselves as professional is up to them and their conscience I guess. Whether the broker will look too deeply is up to theirs I guess.
03/29/2018 at 10:58 PM #6673603/30/2018 at 12:50 AM #66742To be classed professional you need a min 500 000 euro account and have worked in the field so you have experience with the instruments. Not that easy to match for me.
Basically, you have to fulfil two of the three following conditions to be rated as professional by IG.
- Operating more than 10 times in the last year with a significant amount (non-specified)
- Investment portfolio of more than 500.000 €
- You are working (or have worked) in the financial sector (related to FOREX or CFD) for at least one year.
So, I believe, anyone with a minimum experience can fulfil the first one, and I think IG will encourage, or they will be very easy on checking if you have one year of working experience in the sector. They may just make you fill-up a formulary with the options and that it is. They are free of responsibility if something happens in the future.
In my opinion, it would circumvent ESMA restrictions, and it would let us in the same position (helpless) than before.
03/30/2018 at 9:01 AM #66761Operating more than 10 times in the last year with a significant amount (non-specified)
I think the amount is 10 trades with a market value exceeding 10000 Euro.
03/30/2018 at 9:09 AM #66762I notice that one of the benefits of being classed as a professional is 3 months free trial of PRT. Does this mean that if you switch to professional that you have to pay for PRT and no longer get free PRT if you place 4 trades a month?
03/30/2018 at 9:31 AM #66771I notice that one of the benefits of being classed as a professional is 3 months free trial of PRT. Does this mean that if you switch to professional that you have to pay for PRT and no longer get free PRT if you place 4 trades a month?
I have no idea. It could be possible but it may depends on the country, I think. In Spain, they do not mention anything about it. In Switzerland PRT is free in its normal version, but PREMIUM version is not, regardless how many trades you have a month, but in any case, 30 Euros a month would worth the trouble of keeping the old margins.
If I contact IG about the professional status, I will post any useful information.
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03/30/2018 at 7:53 PM #66828I now read in a discussion on Facebook that also outside the EU there have been some changes and taking into account that there are no CFDs in the USA either I’m not so sure if there will be an easy workaround for this new margin requirements.
So apply all the leverage you can the next 3 months until the party is over. 😉
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