ProfitAlgos – Professional trader and coder
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07/30/2022 at 1:58 PM #198133
I asked because to me it seems that it is possible that you have no (actively working) Stop in there. The DD in the equity curve would show that, but it would require a backtest (and then the EQ graph in the top of the chart). So not the DD from the executed trades, but the DD within the trades.
A DD from the executed (hence finished) trades does not exist in your case because of a lack of losing trades. 🙂
I asked, not because I would be afraid of a too large in-trade DD but because a lacking (trigger of) Stop would imply “infinite” DD at some stage. And you would not want to sell that to people (who expect a 100% win, which btw would still be true).
By either look at the code in post or try the free trial. Do u understand why DD is not showing i liveresult? As u can see the code has Stoploss
07/30/2022 at 4:18 PM #198136Yes, StopLoss is fine (at 600+ euro could be on the high side for the gains to achieve but IMO nothing that would imply 100% win by means of possible huge DD).
Below you can see that for me the in-trade DD is just counted. So why yours stays at zero ? beats me. Unless you really did not have spikes down (see third attachment) but this is hard to imagine. 🙂
As said, I’d say you can see that with backtesting only.1 user thanked author for this post.
07/30/2022 at 4:22 PM #198140Yes, StopLoss is fine (at 600+ euro could be on the high side for the gains to achieve but IMO nothing that would imply 100% win by means of possible huge DD).
Below you can see that for me the in-trade DD is just counted. So why yours stays at zero ? beats me. Unless you really did not have spikes down (see third attachment) but this is hard to imagine. 🙂
As said, I’d say you can see that with backtesting only.
thank you for looking into the matter. The important thing here is that, through your questions and research, you show others here that algon has a stoploss and thus as safe/unsafe as all other algos 🙂
07/30/2022 at 4:24 PM #19814107/30/2022 at 4:26 PM #198143I now see that your RunUp is at zero just the same.
maybe there is something wrong with my java version of prorealtime. Possibly a bug when displaying live results.
07/30/2022 at 4:43 PM #198144The important thing here is that, through your questions and research, you show others here that algon has a stoploss and thus as safe/unsafe as all other algos 🙂
Yes.
100% profit systems are always suspicious (obviously). So as a seller one should do his/her ultimate best to convince that all is decent. And well, you just did that.Strange question regarding the latter : you should show a backtest which makes clear the consequences of a loss or two (just run that over a longer period). Thus what I’m saying : It still will be coincidence that you achieved the 100% profit over the period of concern. I just showed that coincidence too and could show the coincidence of the contrary with the same system. Well, see below in the first attachment. This shows what happens with only ~50% win rate. But hey, what’s that in the 2nd attachment then ?? again 100% the same system but with 72% win rate and now loss.
Interesting ?
This is from backtesting. But I could show you these examples from Live just the same. Oh well, see 3rd attachment.07/30/2022 at 4:46 PM #198148Possibly a bug when displaying live results.
Yes, that’s it !!
Below you see my results from that last attachment I showed in my previous post. So same thing as with you.1 user thanked author for this post.
07/30/2022 at 4:50 PM #198150The important thing here is that, through your questions and research, you show others here that algon has a stoploss and thus as safe/unsafe as all other algos 🙂
Yes.
100% profit systems are always suspicious (obviously). So as a seller one should do his/her ultimate best to convince that all is decent. And well, you just did that.
Strange question regarding the latter : you should show a backtest which makes clear the consequences of a loss or two (just run that over a longer period). Thus what I’m saying : It still will be coincidence that you achieved the 100% profit over the period of concern. I just showed that coincidence too and could show the coincidence of the contrary with the same system. Well, see below in the first attachment. This shows what happens with only ~50% win rate. But hey, what’s that in the 2nd attachment then ?? again 100% the same system but with 72% win rate and now loss.
Interesting ?
This is from backtesting. But I could show you these examples from Live just the same. Oh well, see 3rd attachment.
You are absolutely right. I always do longer backtests and optimize for 1M, but as for this algo I created it by “mistake”. I started it with the intention of running for both long and short but by mistake I had commented out long. As you can see, it has been running since March. And what are they saying.
don’t fix it if it ain’t broken
Having said that, the algo works very well apparently live and thus I have published it for those of you who are interested 🙂
I will be happy to receive your comments and input on other algos that I have for free trial.
https://market.prorealcode.com/product/nordicalgos-ws-2m/
https://market.prorealcode.com/product/nordicalgos-ws-3m/08/01/2022 at 11:05 AM #198267New Version of NA – Nasdag 60M
Changelog:
- V1.4 rebuild the algo with takeprofit and new trailing stoploss
- StopLoss 1,1%
Free trial: https://market.prorealcode.com/product/nordicalgos-nasdaq-60m/
All algos can be found here: https://market.prorealcode.com/store/nordicalgos/
08/01/2022 at 12:19 PM #198278New Version of NA – WS 60M
Changelog:
- V1.5 rebuild the algo with takeprofit and new trailing stoploss
- StopLoss 1,2%
Free trial: https://market.prorealcode.com/product/nordicalgos-ws-60m/
All algos can be found here: https://market.prorealcode.com/store/nordicalgos/
08/01/2022 at 6:37 PM #198308Live Update WS2M
Se attached. 1 contract. Positive results every month since release.
913 Eur in gain. DD 132 Eur.
Still free trial: https://market.prorealcode.com/product/nordicalgos-ws-2m/
All algos can be found here: https://market.prorealcode.com/store/nordicalgos/
08/04/2022 at 9:06 AM #198473Live Update PA NAS 60M
Se attached. 1 contract.
256 Eur in gain. DD 178 Eur.
Still free trial: https://market.prorealcode.com/product/nordicalgos-nasdaq-60m/
All algos can be found here: https://market.prorealcode.com/store/nordicalgos/
08/04/2022 at 9:14 AM #198475Live Update WS3M short only
Se attached. 1 contract. 100% win since March
2615 Eur in gain. DD 107 Eur.
Still free trial: https://market.prorealcode.com/product/nordicalgos-ws-3m-short-only/
100% win since March
All algos can be found here: https://market.prorealcode.com/store/nordicalgos/
08/09/2022 at 4:04 PM #198823New Product NASDAQ 5M – Long only
See attached Live/OOS. 1 contract since December 2021
1554 Eur in gain.See attached backtest. 1 contract.
Free trial: https://market.prorealcode.com/product/nordicalgos-nasdaq-5m/
All algos can be found here: https://market.prorealcode.com/store/nordicalgos/
08/09/2022 at 4:07 PM #198826New Product GAZ 5M
See attached backtest. 1 contract.
Gas-market has changed dramatically after Ukraine-war. This algo is optimized for this period.
A vectorial algo.Free trial: https://market.prorealcode.com/product/nordicalgos-gaz-5m/
All algos can be found here: https://market.prorealcode.com/store/nordicalgos/
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