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  • #19150

    Hi Reiner,
    can you please share the programs for Natural Gas and Coffee as well?
    I chewed the seasonal numbers but best results are only Natural Gas (409%/36%DD) and Coffee (795%/52%DD).

     

    #19158

    Hi Alco,

    There are two easy approaches to estimate the required Pathfinder account size.

    • multiply the maximum drawdown with 2 (or 3) and add the margin for the maximum position size or
    • multiply the maximum position size with 1k.

    With 10k and three running Pathfinder algos you have to reduce the position size. The default parameter settings for each Pathfinder version is for an 10k account.

    Best, Reiner

    #19160

    Hi Pranik,

    Thanks for your idea. In my opinion weekly low is a weak condition and doesn’t produce high quality signals. I have extended Pathfinder DAX 4H V6 with the weekly low setup and the result is worse especially the drawdown (double). Please find attached a comparison of original V6 and V6 adopt with weekly low setup.

    Best, Reiner

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    #19163

    Hi CKW,

    I never had this error message and unfortunately I have no clue what is the reason. I suppose it has something todo with the preload bars settings. Try to reduce the default setting.

    Maybe someone else can advise.

    Best, Reiner

    #19164

    Hi Reddi and welcome,

    In my experience with 5M timeframe the Pathfinder breakout algo has to many fake breakouts. Higher timeframes are working like filter and increase the quality of the trade signals. I will focus with Pathfinder on the daily timeframe for the swing trades and on 4H and 1H for the intraday trades.

    I encourage you hereby to verify if Pathfinder works in 5M or 15M. Let me know when you find a profitable approach.

    Best, Reiner

    #19171

    Hallo Pfeiler,

    I just rework all the Pathfinder daily backtests and will publish all saisonal adjustments soon. NG and KC is already finished.

    Thanks for your hint with the @Day-function. I have changed the code accordingly.

    KC has a drawdown of 36% and doesn’t fulfill my quality Pathfinder requirements but is on the other side one of the profitable versions. I let it in the top list because of the drawdown was 1972.

    Best, Reiner

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    #19180

    Hi Reiner,

    Thank you for sharing your code and the time you put into this. Can see a lot more members are getting on board and have different request which is great but getting a bit long and confusing. Perhaps can open individual forum for each indices/commodities (even forex), making it easier to follow the indices/commodities you are interested in trading now or maybe in the future, and for new members to pick up too.

    Best regards,

    Sylvester

    #19182

    Hey Reiner,

    I am sure you are aware of this, but in the Excel I saw that there are big differences between the available history of the instruments. You mentioned that your ranking is based partially on the total performance. But if you look at the average annual performance you see that for example hangseng has a annual performance of 39% (based on the last 10 years) and coffee is 16.5 % (in 39 years).

    Just as an idea for another performance criteria.

    I am looking forward to see the rest of the systems. I will try to check how consistant the annual performance for the instruments is by calculate it for the single years.

    mfg

    flo

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    #19185

    Dear Reiner. During the test of a more conservative management code, where I still add more position accordingly to the equity size I came across a small issue I could not explain. To simplify things the same issue is confirmed if I just adjust the max positionsize for 3 instead of 15 in the DAX V6. The issue is that the conservative closed the 2 position today at 9:01 and the original are still going with 4 position. Both codes started at 21 Dec. 9:00 with 2 positions. later the original added 2 pos at 23 Dec 9:00. I backtested manually both code and I can see the issue is ongoing- but not every time. I could understand if the original V6 DAX closed 2 of the 4 position today at 9:00 it would result in closing of all the 2 position today, but that’s not the case.  Do you have any Idea of why this is happening? Maybe you could explain the exit strategy in details, or just say if you already have, I will find it 🙂

    This is the changed lines

    Cheers Kasper

    #19186

    Update. I think I know why. when looking at the exit conditions, there is a

    The posprofit would be higher with double the size of countofposition- so that why we are closing before the Original V6 DAX. but when I set out for making a more conservative code, I didn’t expect it to be on the gain side :-s Just a quick look and knowing that you properly  optimized the exit strategy(maxCandlesLongWithProfit) I actually think that the original posProfit is general with higher gain. I would be nice if adjusting the maxposition size, still would follow the original posProfit -accordingly, other vice we are not only dealing with profit limited by positionsize but also missing out of profit because getting out to soon. Does this make sense?

    #19187

    Hey guys,

    I tried to adapt the dow to version 6

     

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    #19191

    Correction: “The posprofit would be higher with double the size of countofposition- so that why we are closing before the Original V6 DAX.”

    The posprofit would actually be lower with the double size of countofposition- at least in the latest exit.

    Sorry about the mistake.

     

    #19197

    Perhaps can open individual forum for each indices/commodities (even forex), making it easier to follow the indices/commodities you are interested in trading now or maybe in the future, and for new members to pick up too.

    I approve! Maybe we could put this as a rule: create individual topic for each different instrument version of Pathfinder. This is Reiner’s topic, so I think he may also have something to say about this idea.

    But if you look at the average annual performance you see that for example hangseng has a annual performance of 39% (based on the last 10 years) and coffee is 16.5 % (in 39 years).

    Good point! Normalized annualized performances should be used in this case. I believe anyone could do this calculation with the Excel file, Reiner has shared.

    #19200

    I like to have everything in one topic. it is easier to stay uppdated and a lot of the things that are discussed here are general for all the systems.

    just my opinion…

    #19203

    @flowsen123

    I am having trouble getting anywhere close to your backtest.

    I can only test from 30 aug 2012 and only get 57 trades (+48/-9) with time changed to 23.00 (instead of 21.00) and spread 2.8.

    It seems as though I have done something wrong…

    Regards, David

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