ProRealAlgos? Real or fake

• 10/28/2023 at 4:19 PM #223004
  ProRealAlgos

  Hi Gauvel.

  I don’t understand to be honest. The numbers don’t add up, you’re saying all these negative things but you’re still running all algos, and they are losing money and you continue to run them?

  Again, we are used to being expected to deliver higher quality than everybody else. Might not be serious that the livetrades at times have errors… but we are the only developer that even has a livetrades site. And anyway, it’s fixed now so all trades since this monday are correct.

  We have no such condition.. Maybe check it with PRT? Some algos use volume in the trades, perhaps thats dats you dont have access to prior to 2015. Also check tick-by-tick vs normal in your backtest.

  Ultimately I think Gauvel that we will just have to agree to disagree, and continue with our days. I hope you decide to run the algos for all the reasons explained in the earlier replies but I can’t force you.

  I wish you succesful trading and good health. Best regards / Carl

   

  PS. I think I should also mention, that I will lay low in this thread for a near future. I received a legitimate threat of violence, from a person in this thread this thursday. I wish you all a good November!

  

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  10/28/2023 at 4:34 PM #223005
  ProRealAlgos

  Here you go Peter. More can provided from both customers and our own accounts. We got proof for years. Enjoy

  

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  10/28/2023 at 4:37 PM #223006
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  here

  

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  10/28/2023 at 5:00 PM #223010
  Gauvel

  What a dishonest question !

  Why ?

   

  I don’t understand to be honest. The numbers don’t add up, you’re saying all these negative things but you’re still running all algos, and they are losing money and you continue to run them?

  Answer : No, of course not, I’ve stopped them the 20th of October. To add to the drawdown I’ve just check on your website ( -1800e this week, CF Picture ).  So for you, the algo portfolio doesn’t have a 7k drawdown ? Maybe I don’t know how to make a pnl.

  We have no such condition.. Maybe check it with PRT? Some algos use volume in the trades, perhaps thats dats you dont have access to prior to 2015. Also check tick-by-tick vs normal in your backtest.

  Answer : Maybe that is the reason, by memory volume arrived in 2016 on those asset but I can be wrong, don’t have the time to confim that yet.

   

  Q1 : Do you have the track record for this year ?

  Q2 : I still want to have more information about the Sharpe Ratio you have on your website.

   

  PS. I think I should also mention, that I will lay low in this thread for a near future. I received a legitimate threat of violence, from a person in this thread this thursday. I wish you all a good November!

  Q3 : By who ?

  

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  10/28/2023 at 5:04 PM #223012
  ProRealAlgos

  Q3 : By who ?

  I think it’s best at this point not to say, we will see what happens.

  

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  10/28/2023 at 5:10 PM #223013
  Gauvel

  When you’ll have the time I will be happy to have answers to the others questions.

  I think it’s best at this point not to say, we will see what happens.

  Okay. Take care, have a good November and good month profit.

  

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  10/28/2023 at 5:28 PM #223014
  PeterSt

  What a dishonest question !

  Gauvel wrote:

  Why ?

  I added “haha” to it. May way of speaking I suppose. Could have added this too : 😉
  That is, if you read my text following it.

  

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  10/28/2023 at 5:43 PM #223015
  PeterSt

  ProRealAlgos wrote:

  and they are losing money and you continue to run them?

  I thought I read that it was your advice to hold on ?
  (not that Gauvel did)

   

   

  ProRealAlgos wrote:

  Here you go Peter. More can provided from both customers and our own accounts. We got proof for years. Enjoy

  Thanks. But I don’t know what I am looking at. I see no curves. The May-Dec is beyond me anyway (but alas), and the very first I would expect is something which shows up to today (and then with curve). And *that* from all you have because all you have is OK. Or at least a fair selection. Not only one which coincidentally performs well.
  And so with these out of context pictures, you undoubtedly did your best and it took some time, but I don’t see anything in it. Maybe I am blind and others do and they can explain ?

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  Sorry to hear that you have been threated. 🙁
  I’d say that you should stay actively in this thread so you can rectify more and more. 🙂

  

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  10/28/2023 at 6:22 PM #223017
  ProRealAlgos

  Just trying to understand if he is actually running the algos, and to my distress he isn’t actually running them. Our recommendation is ofc to run them!

  The images are showing the results of all algos accumulated on a real account. The detailed report is from inside ProRealTime.

  Yeah it was sad and quite distressing to see that actually. Yeah I will make sure to answer any questions in time. Just wanted to let me know if you’re waiting for more detailed answers

  

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  11/02/2023 at 11:50 AM #223143
  Allan-

  Hi Carl, just had a look at https://www.prorealalgos.com/algos and the new (?) results page. Very slick, well done!

  

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  11/02/2023 at 11:59 AM #223145
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  Allan- wrote:

  Hi Carl, just had a look at https://www.prorealalgos.com/algos and the new (?) results page. Very slick, well done!

  Thanks Allan. Appreciate it! It was alot of effort. Looking to create a sub page for every algo too.

  

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  11/08/2023 at 9:48 AM #223344
  jmf125

  @Gauvel

   

  I would be interested to understand how you calculate the correlation between the PRA algos, because I have totally different results.
  For example, I have calculated the correlation between PRA PRIME DAX M2 and PRA PRIME DAX M3 since 2015.
  I compare the results of the trades on a daily basis and weekly basis, and use the excel function to obtain the correlation of the 2 data sets

  Daily Basis Correlation : 0.11
  Weekly basis correlation : 0.10

  Whereas you have 0.99

  I must admit, I was expecting more correlation than 0.1

  Also graph of the 2 equities curves attached

   

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  11/08/2023 at 11:33 AM #223358
  coincatcha

  Yes that equity curve page is great, much better to have a look at the individual mechanics of each algo. Shows their personality.

   

  I’m tracking the M2 US100. I still get ‘The widget doesn’t load” on the live orders page since eternity, but could be my satellite internet.

  

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  11/15/2023 at 8:39 PM #223762
  jmf125

  Not your satellite Internet. It just does not work.

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  12/06/2023 at 10:34 AM #224913
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  Not sure if I’m making a mistake waking up this thread again, but I just wanted to give a little status update on the latest results of our algos.

  The losses from August to October marked a significant downturn for ProRealAlgos, the most substantial since our inception. However, the tide began to turn in early November. As I meticulously reviewed the November trades, it’s evident that the drawdown has ended.

  November emerged as our most successful month ever, netting a remarkable €5830 gain with minimal position sizing. This surge not only restored our and our clients’ accounts to peak levels but also left us with €2707 in additional gains in pending positions as we move into December.

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  In addition to this I think there’s reason to study one of the best trades I’ve ever seen from a single algo, done by one of our newest algos PRA Cuts SP500 M15.
  It catched 416 points in long trade in November (which is equivalent of a 10.04% price move in the index) with an initial stoploss level of only 33 points.

  See attached image.

  If anyone wants this algo you can try it out for free for the rest of the year, just contact us. 
  

  

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