@reb – I’m using both the strategies. As I mentioned, it needs patience. But one thing I think that these strategies have going for them is the fact that they are long as well as short. Quite a number of strategies on here are focusing on long only – which is perfectly fine, but since we are in a constant uptrend for the last 8 yrs, I’m a bit nervous about not focusing on the short side ie when do you know that your long only only strategy is simply not working anymore, at what point of drawdown do you call it quits ? 1.5x historic draw, 2x ? Whereas, if you are both long and short then at least you can evaluate if the short side is working or not pretty quickly.