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  • 04/12/2022 at 6:57 AM #191620
    phoentzs

    Well, with all due respect, you are the initiator of the topic. So you would have to start posting already. 😉

    04/12/2022 at 12:57 PM #191630
    Meta Signals Pro
    phoentzs wrote:

    Well, with all due respect, you are the initiator of the topic. So you would have to start posting already. 😉

    Hi @Phoentzs,
    Sorry I did not get your point and why it could be disrespectful and why “I would have to start posting”;

    04/12/2022 at 1:29 PM #191632
    phoentzs

    No… ok… the translator… We would like to see your first results. 😉

    04/12/2022 at 1:34 PM #191634
    phoentzs

    Not wanting to sound rude or anything, but the last time someone had free working algos compiled they sold them on the marketplace as their own. We all remember. Or am I paranoid? 🙈

    04/12/2022 at 2:07 PM #191635
    GraHal
    Meta Signals Pro wrote:

    I will ask for a contribution to our adventure of Meta Signals Pro

    I (we) are intrigued … what is a ‘contribution’ please?

    Do we need to buy Algos from Meta Signals Pro (via Market Place) in order to see the backtest results of the 208 Strats from the Library of this site?

    04/12/2022 at 2:23 PM #191636
    Meta Signals Pro
    phoentzs wrote:

    Not wanting to sound rude or anything, but the last time someone had free working algos compiled they sold them on the marketplace as their own. We all remember. Or am I paranoid? 🙈

    whaaa this is scandalous; who did that?

    04/12/2022 at 4:10 PM #191647
    Meta Signals Pro

    Hi @Grahal,

    Good to see you around; actualy I was expecting you and I wanted to tag you but it is not allowed (maximum respect for moderators 😉

     

    Do you remember how we tried to create some cooperation in here on a idea that you launched in 2018? https://www.prorealcode.com/topic/one-year-after/page/4/#post-72800

    Hi @Francesco,

    I am trying to make this fantastic initiative from Grahal go further, to allow us to select and enhance performing strategies:

    https://www.prorealcode.com/topic/grahals-link-libraries-more/page/3/#post-93038

    Would you enter your performances LIVE (no cash to be shown) in order to grow our global excellence?

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sVas9Tz5gA94nwu-dYWgeGKY1cud7HwvqKkeqjP1aIo/edit#gid=0

    That would be fantastic as you are a key contributor!

    Chris

     

    I was so frustrated to see that nothing would happen; surprisingly, I was the only one with @Inertia to share some results on your document; as you know, everybody keeps his little secrets about one’s performance;

    I felt also very desappointed by answers like this one even if it really makes sense

    “I think that if someone has spent a lot of time and effort on a strategy and then had it patiently on forward test for a year or even just several months and it has proven to perform as well as it did in the back test then it is unlikely that they would be willing to share it to Joe Public just because they were spammed – sorry ‘personally messaged’ on these forums. Unless that is there is a Porsche or Mercedes in the deal as Inertia suggests.

    There are plenty of hints and tips and advice based on solid experience on these forums that if studied, tested and given time will result in your own solid strategies that you probably won’t want to share after all your study and effort.

     

    But it contained some good but painful advice

    Maybe you could just go back through the library and check out the results of all the strategies shared within there and present the OOS results for everyone to check out. There might be a nugget of a strategy but even if there isn’t then your efforts might allow yourself and those who you share the findings with the chance to see what doesn’t work and also maybe improve your and their ability to recognise serious curve fitting?

    Effort = Reward!

     

    Feeling lost at one time about being profitable with algotrading is what pushed me to really dive into this project which took me several months;

    It’s a lot of fastidious work as you can imagine and I want to help the community as much as this new adventure of MetaSignalsPro as we believe there are some people who do understand the interest of algos but who just do not have the time, the passion and the patience to develop innovative tools.

    So yes, I feel fair to make some kind of trade off with this very valuable content on which we are not set yet;

     

    But concerning the “contribution” would you feel confortable with this

    GraHal wrote:

    Do we need to buy Algos from Meta Signals Pro (via Market Place) in order to see the backtest results of the 208 Strats from the Library of this site?

    Very best,

     

    Chris

    04/12/2022 at 11:17 PM #191664
    PeterSt
    PeterSt wrote:

    @JC_Bywan, what were your objections about ? what was moderated out causing me not to understand what this is about really ?

    I just repeat my question because I don’t understand a hoot of what is going on here.

    Meta Signals Pro wrote:

    It is solved; it was a question of not “Uping” the thread to make it trending which is a nightmare for moderators to follow

    Yes, I read that before you repeated the answer. I can’t understand which thread will be upped and how it would cause a nightmare. @JC_Bywan, please elaborate ?

    This thread/topic smells fishy from the start and besides that, you still did not post anything, @Meta Signals Pro / Chris.
    This way it is a waste of your efforts.

     

    Meta Signals Pro wrote:

    whaaa this is scandalous; who did that?

    Maybe you have been living in a cave ?

     

    Meta Signals Pro wrote:

    But concerning the “contribution” would you feel confortable with this

     

    GraHal wrote:

    Do we need to buy Algos from Meta Signals Pro (via Market Place) in order to see the backtest results of the 208 Strats from the Library of this site?

     

    No, not comfortable.

    It is still so that what JC told came falling from the blue sky without reason, but also with text moderated out (though I read the original and already then did not understand anything of it).

    Nobody is going to contribute any more to the stealing of their ideas. So your proposition is a triple No from me alone and I bet you that I am not alone. Those who may fall in the pitfall will be warned by me and some others. You just saw that happening.

    As long as this is going to happen without adequate resolution it is better that all these topics are locked indeed. I hope you now understand the context better ?
    Nobody blames you per se. But by now it is full of stealers in here and they are explicitly allowed to operate under as many nick names as they like, whether they are from Sweden or Denmark or elsewhere. I could be one too. If not today then tomorrow.

    Sorry …

     

     

    04/12/2022 at 11:47 PM #191666
    phoentzs

    @ Peterst

    Pretty clear words, but it hits the point. Even if I continue to post my ideas. Because only then you get help or can replace it.
    Ok, we wait for the first explanations, if some come, and then continue.

    04/13/2022 at 8:20 AM #191671
    Nicolas

    Hello friends, I subscribed to the topic because I find it interesting and because I think that many people would be interested in the fate of strategies posted years ago in the library and understand how we can improve the effects of overoptimization or adapt to the different phases of the market that these strategies have suffered.
    Could we come back to this topic, thanks to the work of the author of the topic and avoid discussions out of context please? I sincerely believe that he is doing it with good heart and I really appreciate that we can continue to share without going into the eternal debates about who will do what with my code posted on the forum 🙂 Thanking you in advance. Have a nice day.

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    04/13/2022 at 8:23 AM #191672
    GraHal
    PeterSt wrote:

    I can’t understand which thread will be upped and how it would cause a nightmare

    As written in the first post of this Topic, there could well have been loads of folk posting … ‘Yeah, I’m in’, or post ‘+1’ etc … meaning, Yeah I support this idea.  There could also have been posters on the non-English Forums doing the same.

    For every one of above posts (consisting of 3 words etc) a Moderator would need to to open the post to check it’s not breaking Forum rules … this could have been a nightmare for the already overstretched Moderators.

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    04/13/2022 at 1:02 PM #191686
    Meta Signals Pro

    Hi Everyone,

    Thanks @Nicolas for giving me this good heart credentials 😉

     

    Actualy there are two topics getting us in a confusion that I will try to solve positively here;

    • There are the 208 existing strategies of the library for which I did the job of ranking them by backtest performances and for which I will ask for a contribution or push (I don’t know exactly yet) of Meta Signals Pro.

    Btw @GraHal, can you please answer to your own suggestion ? thanks

    GraHal wrote:
    I (we) are intrigued … what is a ‘contribution’ please?

    Do we need to buy Algos from Meta Signals Pro (via Market Place) in order to see the backtest results of the 208 Strats from the Library of this site?

     

    I do understand the reluctance of contributors to enrich my own document that will be used to push our brand.

     

    Here is my proposal to positively use the energy of all of us,

    >> any members of Prorealcode who will post here at last 5 “positive strategies” that they have tested live and worked on in the forum, will have access to the full ressource with no contribution asked.

    By positive strategy I mean a strategy that generate more than twice the original capital after a 200 000 units backtest with walkforward.

    With 2 conditions however:

    • to commit not to make this central file public for free or to monetize it, with control and possible sanction from moderation (if they agree for it of course)
    • not to be an identified seller of the marketplace

     

    Please let me know what you think about this proposal.

    Chris

    04/13/2022 at 1:15 PM #191690
    GraHal
    Meta Signals Pro wrote:

    Btw @GraHal, can you please answer to your own suggestion ? thanks

    What is my own suggestion that I need to answer? 🙂

    04/13/2022 at 1:25 PM #191691
    Meta Signals Pro
    @Grahal I meant this suggestion
    Meta Signals Pro wrote:

    But concerning the “contribution” would you feel confortable with this

    GraHal wrote:

    Do we need to buy Algos from Meta Signals Pro (via Market Place) in order to see the backtest results of the 208 Strats from the Library of this site? 

     

    04/13/2022 at 2:12 PM #191701
    GraHal

    Videos on Market Place are too fast for me (with no speed adjustment) so I linked through to your youtube video and ran it on 0.25 speed (still almost too quick to take it all in! 🙂 ).  I will watch again later, a few times! 🙂

    I gave you a thumbs up and I saved your video in my youtube PRT library!

    Keep up the Good Work!

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