Trading without indicators
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10/17/2022 at 7:39 AM #202645
Hope everyone is well after all that covid stuff going on, that’s 4 times I got it but thankfully got through it ok! I didn’t risk the jabs on offer just my personal approach to life I suppose. I do hope everyone in this community got through ok!
10/17/2022 at 7:46 AM #202648Good to see your still around my friend! I do apologise about not getting that video out, I still have the Camtasia problem to sort, every time I go to record the screen while my platform is open it seems to be too much for the computer to handle. I did eventually get back to trading just recently and I’m doing well with it, I’ll see if I can sort something out for you guys to play with soon, I’m only trading the US30 now, big bold play ground to be in with shark infested waters but its a good mover!
11/05/2022 at 8:58 PM #20360911/06/2022 at 9:54 AM #203620Its a nightmare m8 its a laptop I’m using and you should hear the whine of the fans if i go to do 2 things at once, I will be upgrading the computer to a good one soon as I make the money for it off of my trades, I want a really good 1 I don’t have to replace for a while so I was going to get 1 about £4000 that should do everything I need and also I want 4 screens (big ones) my eyes arnt as good as they used to be!
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12/17/2022 at 11:50 AM #205941Here is a system i have had some success with for a time, its not automated as i’m not a programmer and wouldnt know were to start. Mostly everything is self explainitory on the image however whats not is what I do if my stop gets hit shortly after i enter the trade. If my stop gets hit soon after entry I place an opposite trade (if i was selling and stop gets hit, as soon as it does I go long and most of the time I get a break even trade or very close.) I trade us30, your welcome to check it out on that chart on a 5 min timeframe, if you can test it please let me know the results. I usually only go for the break once no more, then if unsuccessful I will either get a break even trade and then scalp later on for some profits. The best thing about my system is that you will be going for twice the risk on the trade 2-1 and if thats not enough for some then you also have the benefit of a break even trade so low risk with good reward. so, you either double your what your risking, your stop gets hit and you get break even, or on a rare occasion loss the 2 trades and you can still go for the break of the range either side for a second chance. this is a good trading method. check it out on the charts!
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12/17/2022 at 12:07 PM #205943Let me clarify
I open my chart before 7am, I draw 2 lines down the screen, 1 at 4am the other 7am, I then draw 2 lines, a low and a high between those times and i wait for a break. soon as it happens im on the trade. I then draw a line halfway between the lines and that becomes my stop loss (i add the spread to my stop). then wait, if it all goes to plan and my first target is hit i move my stop loss to break even minus the spread then let the trade run until it hits tp2 which is the same distance as the broken consolodation.
Second senario, i place the trade my stop gets hit and i enter an opposit trade and go to the opposit end of consolodation for a break even trade.
third senario, if price hits first target then comes back then i also have a break even trade.
Its either going to break or consolodate, either way a break even is good and a break is obviously better, its an edge!
thats about it, any comments or questions welcome
12/17/2022 at 12:20 PM #20594412/17/2022 at 1:40 PM #205949Lets just think this through, say just as an example the breakouts happend 50/50 so break 50% of the time and consolodate 50% of the time, however at market open its more likely to break the consolodation as more particapants enter the market. Now we would have to win 50% of the time to break even (if we had no spread) but as we are aware spreads can kill any good trading strategy over time just like the zero on a rulette wheel. So without the trade recovery plan just say were 50/50 but also keep in mind as well as the recovery if stop loss gets hit eliminates a lot of the bad trades by getting our loss back. now take into consideration we are only risking half of what were going for so all in all I think we have an edge that will grow the account over time quite nicelly. Even worse case senario if our 2 trades get hit and we loss on both of them its just like winning 1 trade and we have the loss back on the next trade. For me this makes a lot of sense, i will take losses but over time the account will grow with this system.
Have a really nice christmas and make the most of the market holidays (a nice wee break away from the charts)!
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12/19/2022 at 9:24 AM #20601612/20/2022 at 7:47 AM #206057I know a lot of people like to use indicators for conformations of there trades so i’m messing about with them myself to see if i can filter the best trades. I have a picture i’ll attach that includes the ones i’m playing with (mac’d and RSI). I haven’t been playing with them myself until now. Mabe someone here can program this system with the filters or without and post the results of there test? Or comment on there thoughts? I know there are lots of variations on morning breakouts online, I have looked at most of them and tweeked my own version then started trading it, I dont paper trade I use small amounts per trade to make things real, If i loss i’ll not break the bank and if i win enough I can double the amount per point. The picture I’m attaching to this message has the settings of mac’d and rsi on it.
Thanks Grahal and PLermite for your post
12/20/2022 at 10:13 AM #206070Managed to record todays trade here: https://youtu.be/Nql2s5jhzYs
another good trade, this time i cut the trade in half soon as first level reached. Price did come close to the stop loss but then turned back!
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