Trigger Trailing SL if target is met

• 08/02/2022 at 10:47 AM #198335
  Mr.Mjau

  Ok ,but how would I then go about if I want a trailing stop to start at just that level where   indicator3<span class=”crayon-o”>[</span><span class=”crayon-cn”>2</span><span class=”crayon-o”>]</span> <span class=”crayon-st”>CROSSES OVER</span> indicator4<span class=”crayon-o”>[</span><span class=”crayon-cn”>2</span><span class=”crayon-o”>] </span>? Is it possible to  store this value in a constant that I can later use in “trailingstarts?

  

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  08/02/2022 at 10:49 AM #198336
  GraHal

  Mr.Mjau wrote:

  Is it possible to  store this value

  Value of what … price at crossing or what?

  

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  08/03/2022 at 10:42 AM #198408
  Mr.Mjau

  Yes exactly, and have the price at crossing to be where trailing starts

  

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  08/03/2022 at 11:26 AM #198411
  GraHal

  My code does what you state above, but you still need a start and step value, for example 30, in the code so when price drops by >= 30 the trade will exit.

  If you have start value = 0 then if price drops by 1 point then trade exits.

  You are imagining that Trail starts at crossover and then price only goes up from there … what if you are Long and price goes down after crossover??

  You need to do loads of tests using your Demo Platform to see how all this hangs together else you will forever be working on ‘how you think PRT works’. 

   

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  08/03/2022 at 8:23 PM #198440
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  // Conditions to enter long positions indicator1 = Average[20](close) indicator2 = Average[100](close) c1 = (indicator1 CROSSES UNDER indicator2) IF c1 THEN BUY 5 CONTRACT AT MARKET ENDIF // Conditions to exit long positions indicator3 = Average[20](close) indicator4 = Average[100](close) c2 = (indicator3[2] CROSSES OVER indicator4[2]) IF c2 THEN SELL AT MARKET ENDIF // Stops and targets SET STOP pLOSS 500

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  // Conditions to enter long positions indicator1 = Average[20](close) indicator2 = Average[100](close) c1 = (indicator1 CROSSES UNDER indicator2)   IF c1 THEN BUY 5 CONTRACT AT MARKET ENDIF   // Conditions to exit long positions indicator3 = Average[20](close) indicator4 = Average[100](close) c2 = (indicator3[2] CROSSES OVER indicator4[2])   IF c2 THEN SELL AT MARKET ENDIF   // Stops and targets SET STOP pLOSS 500

  1y backtesting gave 50 trades and 8.8% time in market. Stoploss was never triggerd during this year.

  // Conditions to enter long positions indicator1 = Average[20](close) indicator2 = Average[100](close) c1 = (indicator1 CROSSES UNDER indicator2) IF c1 THEN BUY 5 CONTRACT AT MARKET ENDIF // Conditions to exit long positions indicator3 = Average[20](close) indicator4 = Average[100](close) c2 = (indicator3[2] CROSSES OVER indicator4[2]) If c2 Then // Stops and targets trailingstart = 1 //trailing will start @trailinstart points profit trailingstep = 1 //trailing step to move the "stoploss" //reset the stoploss value IF NOT ONMARKET THEN newSL=0 ENDIF //manage long positions IF LONGONMARKET THEN //first move (breakeven) IF newSL=0 AND close-tradeprice(1)>=trailingstart*pipsize THEN newSL = tradeprice(1)+trailingstep*pipsize ENDIF //next moves IF newSL>0 AND close-newSL>=trailingstep*pipsize THEN newSL = newSL+trailingstep*pipsize ENDIF ENDIF //stop order to exit the positions IF newSL>0 THEN SELL AT newSL STOP ENDIF Endif SET STOP pLOSS 500

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  // Conditions to enter long positions indicator1 = Average[20](close) indicator2 = Average[100](close) c1 = (indicator1 CROSSES UNDER indicator2)   IF c1 THEN BUY 5 CONTRACT AT MARKET ENDIF   // Conditions to exit long positions indicator3 = Average[20](close) indicator4 = Average[100](close) c2 = (indicator3[2] CROSSES OVER indicator4[2])   If c2 Then // Stops and targets trailingstart = 1   //trailing will start @trailinstart points profit trailingstep  = 1     //trailing step to move the "stoploss" //reset the stoploss value IF NOT ONMARKET THEN newSL=0 ENDIF //manage long positions IF LONGONMARKET THEN //first move (breakeven) IF newSL=0 AND close-tradeprice(1)>=trailingstart*pipsize THEN newSL = tradeprice(1)+trailingstep*pipsize ENDIF //next moves IF newSL>0 AND close-newSL>=trailingstep*pipsize THEN newSL = newSL+trailingstep*pipsize ENDIF ENDIF //stop order to exit the positions IF newSL>0 THEN SELL AT newSL STOP ENDIF Endif SET STOP pLOSS 500

  This is with the trailing stoploss triggerd at c2. Trailingstart and trailingstep set to 1 should give a similar result as to the one without trailing stop.

  1y backtesting gave 23 trades and 61% time in market. Stoploss was  triggerd 2 during this year.

  I tried with different values for trailingstart and trailing step, but nothing works. As you can see the trailing stop does not work as it should and does almost never sell where it should, and that is “why time in market” goes from 8% to 61%. The results are day and night and they should be almost the same.

   

  After alot of detective work. The second one with trailing, will only trigger “IF indicator3[2] CROSSES OVER indicator4[2] AND (now this is strange) if 2 candles after the cross over the candle goes lower then the close of the one before”

  Somehow the trailing stop gets bound with what happends 2 candles after C2 and works ONLY in this candle and ONLY if this cadles low is lower then the previous candles close. And if it dont happend this candle, the bot needs to wait for next C2 bore it can try again. This almost never happends and this is why time in market exploded.

  (Yes I have a delay on the sale with 2 candles, but I have the same problem with my bots without it)

  I hope I make some sence, and if you have time can help me from here

   

  

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  08/03/2022 at 9:10 PM #198443
  phoentzs

  The logic sounds familiar to me. What time frame?

  

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  08/03/2022 at 9:17 PM #198445
  Mr.Mjau

  30 min

  Yes somehow the trailing stop gets bound to this and only this candle and only work here.

   

  Now we just need to set it free 🙂

  

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  08/03/2022 at 9:28 PM #198446
  phoentzs

  trailingstart = 1 and trailingstep =1 is nonsense.
  Just run it through the optimizer.

  trailingstart from 20 to 200 in increments of 10 and trailingstep from 5 to 50 in increments of 5. Should be quick.

  

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  08/03/2022 at 9:39 PM #198449
  Mr.Mjau

  Yes 1 and 1 is nonsence. But they should give the same result as the one without trailing stop, and it does not.

  Have tried manually alot of differnet numbers and can ofc get a better reslut then when I use 1 and 1.

  But no matter what numbers I use, It still only works in just that 1 candle and this is the problem.

  (Don’t know that optimizer is, mb you can link smt?)

  

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  08/03/2022 at 10:03 PM #198450
  phoentzs

  No, can’t give the same results at all. In your case the system would try to secure a point if you win one point. which is bullshit. Can someone please show him the basics? I don’t have a laptop here.

  

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  08/03/2022 at 10:04 PM #198451
  GraHal

  Why are you using below … this means the cross occured 2 bars ago?

  c2 = (indicator3[2] CROSSES OVER indicator4[2])

  1	c2 = (indicator3[2] CROSSES OVER indicator4[2])

  Why not use …

  c2 = (indicator3 CROSSES OVER indicator4)

  1	c2 = (indicator3 CROSSES OVER indicator4)

   

   

  

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  08/03/2022 at 10:06 PM #198452
  GraHal

  Re settings for Start and Step … it be very useful to get your head around how a Trailing Stop works …

  https://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/trailingstop.asp

  https://www.prorealcode.com/blog/trading/complete-trailing-stop-code-function/

   

  

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  08/03/2022 at 10:10 PM #198453
  Mr.Mjau

  Yes it would close out almost immediately, just like if diden’t even have it.

  But the problem is not if I use 1-1 or 1-30

  The problem is the trailing stop ONLY work in one candle.

   

  

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  08/03/2022 at 10:13 PM #198454
  Mr.Mjau

  Yes I want it to sell on delay from cross.

  But the problem remains indicator3(2) or indicator3, the trailing stop ONLY works in just that one candle.

  

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  08/04/2022 at 7:56 AM #198467
  GraHal

  Mr.Mjau wrote:

  trailing stop ONLY works in just that one candle.

  It will with a Start of 1 and a Step of 1 or 30 ?

  Post your latest code and I will test it on my Platform.

   

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