V12 – Odd or Annoying Happenings!?
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08/16/2024 at 3:10 PM #236432
The selection of “Set 2” needs to be done redundantly. I can’t tell you from the top of my head where this sits, but since you now know it, you surely will find it. 🙂
Btw, the active Set (Tab) is saved with the program. For me this means that I can use it to save several instances of the same program with different data, but that select other sets in ad-hoc fashion is a bit tedious (and encourages for mistakes).The lot becomes even more of a hassle when you’d see that one running instance (Live or Demo) is not labeled or anything by the Set. You’d have to know it (what about my x page Word document and extensive description in the “production” instances of the one program with its several sets of data.
With al this, please keep in mind that I am using these Parameter sets really as such (start the same program with different Parameters). It may not be really made for that, but as we know this just works (at some stage I had to explain to PRT support). So this could not be your thing at all, and merely use it for backtesting with different sets. This is thus NOT what I do; I select a (new) Set, and work that out to a working System, with the same program code as many other Systems. Hence, the unicity for Live/Demo (hence ProOrder) in the System Names.I hope this is clear a little ? or perhaps known long-gone ?
08/16/2024 at 4:07 PM #236435The selection of “Set 2” needs to be done redundantly.
Thank you for resposnding.
Currently, I have no idea what you mean? I will think on it and even sleep on it! 😉
Redundant means ‘not needed‘, but – in the scenario I describe 2 posts above – I do need ‘Set2’ … hence, partly, why I don’t understand how to select Set2 redundantly?
08/16/2024 at 5:28 PM #236437Redundant means ‘not needed‘,
Uh-ohh … Redundant(ly) is the most negative term (most often used in ICT) for matters which are obtained more than once, and which must be maintained more than once.
In this case it must be set more than one time. Or “selected” it you will.Below two screenshots;
In the 2nd you can already see that the default (“standaard”) has been selected (I did not do that) while the 1st screenshot shows what has been saved with the System, and what has been loaded there. This is the opposite situation from what you have, because you will have the default stored and the QuickOut from my case, added newly.3rd SS : The ProOrder tab shows the one which was saved again (and will use that).
Then finally to your Parameter form … see 4th SS. There we have it once again. This will take the setting from the Editor’s main form, it will also go back to the Editor if you change it with the Parameters, but … don’t ask me where this can go wrong because all is redundant indeed.
The least we could wonder is what happens if you use the Backtest button at the bottom of the part of the form which you see in the 3rd SS, and which set it will take.Might it be so that you still don’t recognize all this, then you asked the wrong question. Haha.
But never mind in that case. 😉 I tried.1 user thanked author for this post.
08/18/2024 at 8:42 PM #236487Thank you PeterSt for drawing my attention to the tab ‘Optimisation Parameters Set’ … I had only ever used a few times when first available, but now I use the tab to end / clear the ‘locked-in loop’ I mentioned a few posts up.
To prevent the opti parameters ever getting into the locked-in loop; I try and remember to use the tab for each new set of variable values that I optimise.
Cheers
PS
There was no 4th SS in your post above, but I guess it does not matter now.1 user thanked author for this post.
08/21/2024 at 3:28 PM #236577I set up Alerts on Current Period and Real Time as per attached SS, but the Alert does not sound until the opening of the next bar.
So if, for example, my chart is on H1 Timeframe, I would not get an alert sound for – what could be – 59 mins after price crossed my Alert Line.
This surely cannot be how Alerts are supposed to work, nor how they used to work on v11 / v10.3 nor what is implied / intended by selection of settings for Current Period and Real Time??
09/14/2024 at 10:48 AM #237561Anybody else ever get the weirdness shown in attached? I’ve had it before and over many more trades than the 3 shown on attached.
3 short trades all opened at a price that didn’t exist / wasn’t available on the respective 3 bars?
All 3 shorts then closed, again on prices not available (but nearer to bar prices).
Above leaves 3 open and 3 closed arrowheads hanging in mid air.
Profit from the weirdness £2780 … shame it’s on Demo! 😉
Comments welcome?
09/14/2024 at 11:07 AM #237563Attached shows another example (of the weirdness detailed in the post above) this time involving 19 trades and resulting in £6,400 ‘weird profit’!
I can’t see any reason why I should be the only one experiencing this anomaly so check your results … zoom in on trades showing a big leap in profits over trades on successive bars!?
09/14/2024 at 11:18 AM #237565Attached is another example of above weirdness covering 11 trades resulting in £2,100 ‘weird profit’!
You got any thoughts / comments @PeterSt … you’ve been very quiet this past week or so? 😉
I’m starting to wonder if folk just aren’t trading using Algos anymore … what you reckon Peter / anyone?
09/14/2024 at 12:28 PM #237568Wow… ask them to replicate on real acconts!!! 🤣🤣🤣
As you can see from my 5min, 15min, 1h and Daily charts, the 5-minute ghost prices were actually real prices on the higher charts, just quoted BEFORE, not in those 3 candles with those 1-bar trades. Something weird must have happened in the software dealing with the construction of bars and their prices!
Apart from that GraHal, why are EU times on my charts tagged as UTC+2 while yours seem to be tagged UTC+0 (yours should have been UTC+1, shouldn’t they have been?). Are you using a custom TZ?
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09/14/2024 at 2:15 PM #23757009/14/2024 at 3:13 PM #237572I can’t see it in Roberto’s charts (not at first glance that is) but the three pictures you showed, GraHal, all clearly testify of error in the data. Thus the low price is on a straight line and the high price is too.
I think I asked this before (few weeks ago ?) : did anyone actually check whether the data in IG Live is the same as in IG Demo ?Edit : If you envision the top triangles as the Ask and the bottom triangles as the bid, then both are stuck for a while. Your autotrading CAN trade on this, but in erroneous form. This can only be explained by you looking at your own code. But I think you will be able to see it.
PS: I don’t feel quiet really, but most passing these days here is about old stuff that does not get answered upon / solved anyway. Call me numb by now. But also : I think I have it all under control (ahem). The Auto systems are running (IG as well as IB), but in lower “profile” hence a smaller number of Systems (left the profitable – ditched the losing).
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09/17/2024 at 8:59 PM #23773209/25/2024 at 1:19 PM #238000Anybody else get attached.
The warning is related to ‘saving a set of variables in a System‘ (i.e. not related to the limit of 10,000 combination of variables before optimisation).
I was only trying out the ‘function’ and I then deleted the System(s) from the Indicator & Trading Systems window.
It now appears that I have 5 Systems stored ‘somewhere’, but where are they stored so I can delete them as the attached warning message directs me to??
It all gets Weirder and Weirder????
09/25/2024 at 3:28 PM #238005Please can anybody describe how they usefully / helpfully use the ‘numbered sets of variables’ as shown on attached?
Up to now, I find them an annoying additional action to perform after each optimisation run and they serve no practicable purpose for me. v10 (v11 even?) never used them and it all ran just fine.
@PeteSt, I’m sure you love them and can enlighten us all how we could put the ‘variable sets’ to good use?
Also is there any easy way to delete them all apart from selecting each set and then selecting delete on an individual basis … hundreds of times in my case for < 10 Systems ?? What a faff and for no advantage (in my opinion)??
09/25/2024 at 3:46 PM #238009I never used them!
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