What are the best indicators of all times in Prorealtime
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01/07/2020 at 2:28 PM #116133
Hi everybody,
So many indicators, so less time 😉
What are the top 5 technical indicators here (that are made at ProRealCode platform) for the daily and intraday trading on dow, nasdaq100, dax? does anyone has a backtest report on that as well?
Many thanks! ,
01/07/2020 at 5:14 PM #116156All indicators are good….. at telling you what has happened in the past. None can predict the future. You can look at what happened in the past when an indicator showed a certain thing and guess that it might do something in the future and you might be right or you might be wrong.
There is no holy grail indicator and no one can tell you to use any particular one on any particular instrument and then you’ll make a million.
01/07/2020 at 5:34 PM #116159@ Vonasi: all true…, but maybe some are more ‘predictable’ than others… 😉 Offcourse proven first with a backtest.. and then with a random forwardtest..
Maybe there is someone who has the software or skills to make a ‘statistical educated guess’ on the top 5 of the best indicators for identifying trends..
01/07/2020 at 6:16 PM #116160Just because an indicator is popular does not directly rate to it being good.
There are an awful lot of built in PRT indicators and they can all be used with an awful lot of variable settings and on an awful lot of different instruments and an awful lot of different time frames…. and then there is how the strategy uses the indicator. That is an awful lot of work to expect someone else to carry out and then just tell you the results of just because you a re a bit short of time! 🙂
01/12/2020 at 10:12 AM #116484All true, aint it possible to automatically backtest all the indicators on lets say the Dax, and let the sofware decide wich top 5 indicators are (in a predefined period, lets say last 3 years) are the most predictive for the Dax? Why should humans still figure this all out in these day’s of programming?
01/12/2020 at 10:50 AM #116486the sofware decide wich top 5 indicators are (in a predefined period, lets say last 3 years) are the most predictive for the Dax?
Above is why I try and make a new Auto-System out of some of the new Indicators coded / posted on this website.
To do what you suggest with all established Indicators would be a monumental effort, but the results might be useful??
@Tradingrob why don’t you pick just 3 Indicators for starters and have a go and let us know how you get on?
Then for the hell of it, combine all 3 in the same System at the same settings you decided on individually?
- MACD
- Stochastic
- RSI
01/19/2020 at 5:07 PM #117214Because almost non of them work, 87% of all traders only lose money in the long run. So i would like to know the best of the best upfront; saves money and a decade of waisted time trying trying trying.. with the wrong indicators
01/19/2020 at 10:06 PM #117266The topic is so huge that I will be surprised if you get a better / more informative answer than is already available on google??
https://www.ig.com/uk/trading-strategies/10-trading-indicators-every-trader-should-know-190604
01/20/2020 at 12:21 AM #117280There are a million ways to trade every indicator and thousands of instruments to test them in a million ways on so how exactly do you propose we test each one before we decide that it is better than another one that we can test in a million different ways?
You don’t want to waste a decade of your own time working out which ones are good but you expect someone else to have done the foot work for you and just tell you which indicators to use. Next thing you’ll be expecting them to tell you how to use them too! 🙂
01/25/2020 at 4:32 PM #117814Well its more a fact of using the ‘whisdom of the crowd’, what works? what does not work? I thought dat would be a great first step for everybody.. After that we can improve those indicators / systems that have potential, and ignore the rest. Its more about ‘noise’-reduction. Saves time. And yes, would be great to respectfully ‘stand’ on the sholders of giants here.. Reducing the noice of the resellingclowns (As IG-artikel you send, i am sure in the long run those indictators won’t certaintly make you money.. why?? because 78% of all traders lose eventually only there money….so follow the money/losses, where does this money go to?? => IG! because they handle on there own platform 😉 we must be better than that) with expensive indicators that does not have potential. That was the intention of this vlog. Share what you know what really works, and learn here from the best of the best.
01/25/2020 at 5:04 PM #117815As with all requests to share wisdom learnt from extensive research it highly unlikely that many people having put in possibly years of research to find out what actually works would then just pass that information on in return for a ‘thank you’. They most probably would do in return for a large wedge of cash but most will be of the opinion that ‘after all that time and hard work I’m buggered if I’m giving it away for free – especially to someone who admits that all they are after is a short cut to riches because they are a bit too busy right now’.
I think the fact that only GraHal and I have replied to your topic in the eighteen days since you started it kind of confirms the above. 🙂
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01/25/2020 at 5:39 PM #117816what works? what does not work?
If I said simply … I think XYZ Indicator is best … you would ask why?
This would then need me to type loads of words explaining why. I’m sure it would have all been said before and is available via google.
This is why I said it is a huge topic … it’s like asking … which car is best?
we must be better than that) with expensive indicators that does not have potential
There are loads of Indicators built into PRT and loads more … all free on this Community.
See here …
https://www.prorealcode.com/library-list-view/What have you tried so far @Tradingrob? Tell us what you think are the best at this stage?
My tip to help you decide … build an Indicator into an Auto-System and see if you can make profit by backtesting over 100k bars? Maybe you need 3 Indicators in the same System? Let us know how you get on please?
Hope you don’t think we are offhand or rude or unhelpful, it’s just that it is like eating an elephant! 🙂
If I had to give a short answer I would say … they are all good (for their intended purpose) and they are all sh1te! 🙂 Forgive the British humour!?
01/26/2020 at 4:33 PM #117918Ok, well lets give it a try, maybe you can help me with programming.
I would like an indicator where its possible to adjust the code here and there. And where its possible to do a backtest over the 100k bars you suggest on every timeframe.
A possible trade idea is that we should try to get ridd of the time.., the timefactor make all the graphs and indicators confusing with eachother. So what’s next? Let’s try to make an indicator/system purely on the move a graph is making independent of the factor time.. Therefore i use Renko as a basis.
Renko-tradingsystem (lets try this for example on the emini Dow), who can help me here with the programming?
Setup:
– RenkoBlocks on the high and low of the Dow, so we have set the Renkobricks defined on the intra-block movement of the Dow on the high and low.
– lets do a 1% brick value on the dow (would be nice if its adjustible) as a renkobricksize of the dow.
– lets use daily bricks, but preferably it must work on intraday data as well with the same setup below:
Setup:
– Intraday position: only if the week-renko and the day-renko are aligned with the intraday position, only then we take a intraday position.. For example, lets say we want to go long on an intraday renko chart? it must having a weekly long renko signal (1%/ highlow bricks) and a daily long renko signal (1% / high low bricks). When going short it’s the way around.
Signals Renko Long and Short:
– Longsignal renko: IF the renko-brick is above the 40-brick exponential moving average (40-ema) of that timeframe . THEN Open longtrade at the opening of the next normal graphbar after 2 successive renko longbricks (here I take 2)
– Shortsignal renko: IF the renko-brick is below the 40-brick exponential moving average (40-ema) of that timeframe. THEN Open shorttrade at the opening next normal graphbar after 3 soccesssive renko shortsbricks (here I take not 2 but 3)
Exit’s Renko:
Exit Long Renko: After 3 successive renko shortbricks have formed (against the renko long trend of that timeframe), close at the opening of the next normal graphbar as soon as possible. OR close as soon as possible if a renko brick closes below the renko ema-40
Exit Short Renko: After 2 successive renko longbricks have formed (against the renko short trend of that timeframe), close at the opening of the next normal graphbar as soon as possible. OR close as soon as possible if a renko brick closes above the renko ema-40
Re- enter Renko:
Re-enter Long Renko: IF the renkobrick closes above the ema-40 renko, AND have 2 new successive renko longbricks THEN Re-enter long at the opening of the new bar of normal graph as soon as possible
Re-enter Short Renko: IF the renkobrick is below the ema-40 renko, AND have 3 new successive renko shortbricks.. THEN Re-enter short at the opening of the new bar of normal graph as soon as possible
Looking forward to see if someone here make this indicator/system visually to see as arrows long and short in prorealcode and show the results of the backtest of this indicator/system.. 🙂
01/26/2020 at 6:28 PM #117934I suggest you open a new topic with your renko indicator idea, it is not related to your initial question and the subject of this topic.
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